The videotapped deposition won’t be released until Wednesday, but the Attorney General’s office has released the transcripts of the depositions. Each day is hundreds of pages and we have not had time to even look at them yet, but wanted to get them out there to our readers who may be interested in them.
Here is a portion of the first day of testimony. The Q is Eliot Gersten and the A is Secretary of State Susan Bysiewicz. The dialogue is as follows:
Q Have you actually ever been in court yourself?
Q Okay. And when you’re at court, did you stand at the counsel table?
A I’ve been to court to be sworn in to the New York bar and the Connecticut bar and to observe proceedings.
A And I’ve been to small claims court.
Q How did you enjoy that experience?
Q Did you represent yourself in small claims?
Q How many times have you been to small claims court?
A And I did win.
Q And when you observed proceedings in court, as you’ve just mentioned, were you the one who stood up in court and addressed the judge or the jury?
Q Were you sitting at the counsel table and introduced to anyone as the lawyer for the case?
Q Did you sit in back of the bar of the court or did you sit in front of the bar at counsel table?
A In the public portion of the courtroom.
Q And that would be the part that’s not at counsel table, correct?
Q That would be the part in back of the bar, correct?
Q And how many times did you come to court to observe the proceedings in court and you sat in the public section?
A Just a few.
Q Can you name the most recent?
A I believe in law school I went to an argument at the Connecticut Supreme Court.
Q Okay. Any other occasions? And I don’t mean to sound flippant, but I don’t think—that’s the most recent one you can recall? That would be what, somewhere 25 years ago, if my math is right?
Q Was that in your first year of law school?
A I can’t remember. Probably.
Q Well, it was in law school, right?
Q And you went to UConn law school?
A I did.
A For my first year.
Q So you don’t recall going to watch the proceedings at the Connecticut Supreme Court while you were at your Duke Law School, correct?
A It probably was when I was a first year.
Q So other than that occasion to watch what takes place in court you have no more recent recollection about what takes place in court, by personal observation and being in the public section?
Q So you’ve never actually been introduced to a judge or jury as the attorney—as an attorney at all, have you?
A Can you repeat that question?
Q Sure. Have you ever been inside a courthouse at all?
Q Okay. And have you ever been inside a courthouse at any time and been introduced as an attorney in the case?
A In a case pending before that court?
Q Yes, ma’am.
Q Have you ever been inside of a courthouse and been introduced as an attorney outside of your admittance to the bar?
Q Okay. And when was that?
A When I visit district courts to do naturalization ceremonies.
Q Okay. And when’s the last time that you visited—that would be the district court of Connecticut?
Q And that would be the federal district court?
Q And in the federal district court, when was the last time you participated in naturalization ceremony where you were introduced as an attorney?
A Well, I was introduced as the secretary of the state and I am an attorney, sir.
Q Okay. But when you were introduced as secretary of state, does your introduction as secretary of state include a title that says attorney?
Q So outside of the naturalizations, have you been introduced as an attorney while you were standing in a courthouse at any time in the past 26 years?
A With respect to a pending case in court, no.
Q Okay. And when you say with respect to a pending case in court, how about with any case?
A I was just—I visit courthouses as a public official and therefore I’m sure along the way someone has said, this is attorney Bysiewicz.
Q Can you recall the most recent time that took place?
A Not a specific recollection.
Q Did it take place in any time you can recall in the past six months?
Q In the past five years?
A I can’t remember.
Q Okay. And by the way, ma’am, is this the first time—this is the first time you’ve been deposed I think we said. Have you ever been a witness in a case before?
Q Okay. Have you ever participated in a preparation for a deposition before?